i think-my sen is that frankly theyould have a better chance of passing the bill deal, a big $4 illion deal that would significantly cut spending but also include some tax revenue increases. that's, i think... as tough as it would be far to pass the house, i think idea of just giving the president the authority but getting political points to store in return is not going to fly with the republicans in the house. the only way it passes in the house i believe is if there is a vast majority of democrats to go along with it and a slice of republicans. but, look, y heard the speaker last week say this whole situation is like a rubik's cube. any time you kind of dial up the spending cuts, you're going to start losing democrats. any time you di up anything portrayed as a tax increase, even if it's not increasing tax rates,obods talngbout that right now. anything that looks like it's increasing tax revenues at all you start losing republicans. >> rose: so is th idea of the president's desire far grand bargain and speaker boehner at one time hoping for a grand bargain, is that dead or does... t